Today I’m joined by Matthew Schmitt, co-founder of The Table Setters, a new organisation running diversity workshops, and doing consulting that helps to develop culturally integrated lives in churches, schools & businesses in the US.

Matthew and I talk about issues of race and equality in the US today, and the challenge of what it really means to love your enemy. The concept of the Table Setters is to bring people of different perspectives, races, backgrounds, beliefs around the same table and have healthy dialogue, and Matthew and I discuss together what this looks like – in particular in the current political climate in the US.

And with the election of Donald Trump as President, we talk about how progressives and conservatives, instead of hating on each other, might follow Jesus example, come around a table together, and hear each others stories – and how that is what may bring about the change we desperately need.

Matthew is a truly inspiring man, doing some groundbreaking work – and his words will both encourage and challenge you.