Michael and Lisa Gungor are on the podcast today. Husband and wife, creatives, musicians, Jesus-followers, Michael and Lisa have created some amazing music over the years and have some phenomenal wisdom on spirituality, creativity, and the personal journey.

Michael and Lisa share with great honesty and wisdom about their own personal journey, the challenges and struggles they’ve had to confront in recent years, and how they’ve shaped their spiritual and creative journey.

The Gungors talk about the creative process and spiritual journey behind their recent One Wild Life album trilogy, and how creativty is both a spiritual and an organic process. They also unpack more of their own spiritual practices, and we discuss together how a real spiritual practice can be as simple as playing with your kids, and the truth about our habits and decisions.

Finally, they talk about what’s happening in the world right now, the atmosphere of fear, of a force in the world “pulling back from the progress we’ve made” – and how and why here might be hope for us all.

This is truly inspiring, life giving and eye-opening interview, without doubt, one of the most amazing and inspiring I’ve ever done. Michael and Lisa have such wisdom, humility and grace, and this is well worth a listen.

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“Spiritual practice is when you are sitting down and training your body and mind to engage with the divine in each and every moment” – Michael Gungor

“We often don’t make decisions about what we do. We act on habit.” – Lisa Gungor

“There’s a force in the world pulling back from the progress we’ve made” – Michael Gungor